If bacon makes everything better, then pancetta makes everything better still! It's similar to bacon, in that they are both made with pork belly, but that's where the similarities end. Pancetta is normally unsmoked and dry cured and can be made flat or rolled into a pinwheel, whereas bacon is smoked and not left to dry and always sold flat.Pancetta is really very similar to guanciale, and the spices and herbs used could be used on either one. This particular pork product is probably the easiest and most accessible cured meat that can be made at home. So, why didn't I show this one first on this blog? Because I already had some in my fridge at the time! I still don't really need any, but I had a defrosted piece of Tamworth pork belly that had to be used, so I figured I'd make pancetta. After all, is it really possible to have too much cured pork belly? I think not!
The reason I say that it is the most accessible cured meat is that it can be made without a curing chamber. I've done it. It works. I even did a side by side comparison of 2 pieces of pork belly one cured in my chamber, and one in the fridge, and they were almost identical. So...if you're looking to get into cured meats, dive in with pancetta!
| Ingredient | Quantity(g) | % of Meat+Fat |
| Pork belly | 420 | 100 |
| Salt | 10 | 2.4% |
| Black Pepper | 7.8 | 1.9% |
| Brown Sugar | 4.8 | 1.1% |
| Cure #2 | 1.1 | 0.26% |
| Juniper | 1.8 | 0.43% |
| Bay Leaves | 0.3 | 0.07% |
| Nutmeg | 0.8 | 0.19% |
| Dry Thyme | 0.5 | 0.12% |
| Garlic | 1 clove |
I had a pretty small piece of pork belly, so that's what i used. It's preferable to have it skin on, but if you can only find it without skin...so be it.
All the spices, salts, sugar and herbs are mixed together. The small piece of pork didn't require much cure.
The cure is rubbed all over the pork belly and massaged into the meat. The meat is then put into a zip bag and into the fridge to cure. Allowing the salts and herbs to penetrate the meat.In about 7-10 days the meat will be rinsed, and hung in the curing chamber for as long as one might choose to wait. 2 weeks minimum though.
I've been enjoying the blog, and have to agree, pancetta is probably my favorite cured pork product, and also the easiest. I go through a lot of it.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to give this a try. I'll need to age it in the fridge. Would you recommend wrapping the meat in cheesecloth or something while it's aging?
ReplyDeleteWhen i made it in a regular fridge i just put it on a rack on top of a plate, to allow air to get to all sides, and left it uncovered on the bottom shelf for about 30 days.
ReplyDeleteCheesecloth wouldn't hurt though.
I was going to detail this in the next post.
Thanks Andrew. I'm glad i can help people make their own cured meats.!
ReplyDeleteThanks Jason, I appreciate the advice.
ReplyDeletejason u doing r good job but dont put to much spices otherways u can not taste the pork flavour and it doesn't really need to be put in a bag regards giovanni
ReplyDeleteI agree Giovanni. Normally i don't cover the pancetta with spices and pepper, so i can taste the pork. This one i wanted to try something difference since it's a small piece.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great blog! After receiving Ruhlman's Charcuterie from a friend, I've been experimenting with this new-found hobby. Yesterday I made Spanish Chorizo, Poblano Sausage, and Mexican Chorizo Sausage as well as my first Pancetta. I converted an old refrigerator into a curing box and will be working on a fermenting box this week.
ReplyDeleteThanks Rob, it's always good to hear new people getting into the hobby!
ReplyDeleteJust gave this a shot. Curious as to how much liquid I should expect at the bottom of the container.... the pork slab was about 2#.
ReplyDeleteThanks -- Roger
Roger, i'm not sure why but sometimes the meat exudes water while salting, other times it doesn't. Seems to me that it depends on whether the meat has been previously frozen..
ReplyDeleteShould I drain the liquid and add some additional salt, or is the liquid no issue (there is probably only a tablespoon or two).
ReplyDeleteThanks -- Roger
No, dont worry about the liquid..just leave it until you remove the meat from the cure.
ReplyDeleteMaybe turn the bag every few days.
Hey jason,
ReplyDeleteI've been trying to find a soundproof recipe for pancheta for a while. i tried yours out one a few pieces of porkbelly the other day, ill let you know how it turns out.
Check out my blog at charcuteriesundays.blogspot.com
This is exciting! I'm buying some pork belly tomorrow. I've got a question though, what is 'Cure#2' listed in the ingredients?
ReplyDeleteRadka, cure #2 is a mixture of salt, sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite. You can find it at butcher-packer:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.butcher-packer.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=237_12&products_id=677&zenid=ccef59c6cc188691fe9d1e03e3708847
It's used to keep the color of the meat, and to safeguard against botulism.
Hi Jason, I havent used the cure*2, because didn't know what that's mean, shouold I start everything again??? thanks
ReplyDeleteMartin
Martin, it's up to you. Cure #2 is used to keep the nice red color of the meat, and safeguard against botulism.
ReplyDeleteTheoretically it should be fine, but it's up to you if you wish to take the risk.
sorry i cna't be more specific. I'm risk averse, so personally i would start over...but maybe i'm too cautious.
It is looking fab! I like pork - we have it almost as much as we have chicken, which is a lot. It should keep me busy in the kitchen.
ReplyDeleteJason,
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Cure #2 is very similar to Morton's Tender Quick. Is this the case?
Morton's tender quick contains salt, nitrates, nitrites plus sugar. I don't know the % of each item, so personally, i wouldn't use it.
ReplyDeleteIt's similar, but different.
I just made Pancetta without using Pink salt. I used only Kosher Salt and the other spices and brown sugar. In fridge for a week and then hung for 1 month. It looks good. Washed off little mold with vinegar and now it smells like vinegar a bit. Not pink but brownish and the fat is sort of white. I am worried about botulism since I didn't use pink salt but I didn't want the chemicals. Has anyone else gone without the pink salt sucessfully?
ReplyDeleteDid you roll the pancetta or hang it flat? Its very important, if rolled, to make sure there are no air pockets inside for bugs to inhabit.
ReplyDeleteIf the mold was green or anything not white that would raise a red flag for me.
You may want to pick up some pink salt from Butchers & Packers (Detroit) and try that. Good luck.
Hi Rob,
ReplyDeleteOnly one of the rolls had a green mold on the outside the size of a small pea. The others had a little white stuff, could have been salt not sure, but I wiped it off with vinegar, now they smell a bit vinegary. They are again hanging to dry from being wiped off. They look and smell good to me except for the vinegar smell I added by wiping them. Meat is liable like strong leather and color is brownish like jerky with whit fat. I could send a picture if you have email....Ellen
Ellen - With the disclaimer that I'm not a microbiologist, it should be ok to eat. When I had some exterior green mold on the pancetta I cured, I used salt brine to wipe it off - this might be a way to avoid the vinegar taste. If you want to send me a photo, my email is rvlosky@gmail.com.
ReplyDeleteHi Rob,
ReplyDeleteI sent you some pictures but they came back as invalid email....Ellen
Jason,
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to send you a big THANKS for the posts you wrote on Pancetta. I made this at home after your precious recipe and the result was unbelievable!
This is my first success in curing meats thanks to you!
Anyway - I took pics along the way and I will also write a blog post about it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabstero/sets/72157623561813783/
Cheers!
GAbi.
Gabi, that looks fantastic! Congrats on your first of many successes!!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jason!
ReplyDeleteI have the salame di brianza still curing in the chamber. Will open that this weekend - more pics to follow...
cheers and thanks again!
Gab.
Hello, my name is Kostas. I've been curing meats for a little while and reading your blog some time now.I haven't cured much though because meat is expensive and I'm just a uni student :)
ReplyDeleteI'd like to ask you mainly one question, if I use just seasalt(non iodized) should I use more salt?
Oh one more, should I turn the meat in the bag when water comes out?
Thx, Kostas :)
Hi Kostas, if you use just sea salt, instead of what? I don't understand the question.
ReplyDeleteIf you have some water come out of the meat during the curing, it won't hurt to turn the meat over or flip the bag.
Lol Jason, sorry for being unclear.
ReplyDeleteIf I don't use any curing salt and only seasalt, should I just add the amount of curing salt in plain seasalt(2.4+0.26=2.66%) or should I add more salt in general(for some reason I can't imagine)?
Just a question(maybe a bit stupid) but I'm not very good with meat chemistry! ;)
If you don't use curing salts, adding more regular salt is not going to prevent anything that the curing salts are there to prevent (botulism).
ReplyDeleteSo....just the normal amount of salt.
I wouldn't advise not using curing salts though.
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That's what I'd suggest to anyone.
But curing at a low temperature(5-10C) in a fridge, even without curing salt, practically the possibility of something nasty to develope(one that can really harm you) in the cured meat is 0%.
Ofcourse the result would be much less aestheticaly nice, nothing like the nice red color nitrite(or nitrate) would give you in the finished product.
Some pancetta I've made has gone a bit sour and I threw it away. Ok I ate some first, I couldn't throw it all away :) but most of the time my cured meats come out nice!
I don't know much, I guess this is right from my small experience, any other opinion is more than welcome ;)
My experience is not big, something like this:
Mainly I've cured pork belly(dry cured) pancetta style but never used a proper recipe...
When I save some money I cure pork fillet(2 days dry cured in salt and easter like spices, then 2 weeks in wine and then drying).
Sometimes a cheap part of beef(dry cured in salt, then a thick mixture of mainly paprika,fenugreek seeds very finely crushed and water), it's a local thing :)
Cheers,
Kostas
Kostas, you're correct. Since the curing and drying will be done in teh fridge the possibility of contamination and problems is certainly much lower.
ReplyDeletetell us more about the local dry beef. Where is local, and how do you make it? Sounds good!@
Let me knead a bread, cause it's late(10.45) and I'll send you the recipe in a while.
ReplyDeleteLocal is northern Greece(though I'm from west part of greece), but I think it's of eastern origins(maybe turkey). Traditionally(don't know if I'm right) it used camel meat. I think. The paprika, fenugreek paste is amazing.
Well I just preshaped my 2 loafs and I'm ready to share this recipe.
ReplyDeleteIt's called pasturmas and it's cured beef with a strange paste of spices.
What part of beef? Well I guess a classic part is, well it's part of the silverside but you can cure any similar part of beef. Sorry I'm not so good with english and beef cuts.
You cure it in salt, nothing special. The classic recipe doesn't even have curing salt. While curing in salt you put something heavy on top.
When it's properly cured, rather than letting it dry, you put a paste of spices on the outside and then you leave it to dry.
The paste gives an amazing very characteristic smell because of the fenugreek seeds.
The paste consists mainly of paprika and fenugreek, but it has some garlic too and water(or ice better) for you to make the paste. The very finely crusted fenugreek seeds absorb much water so watch out not to make the paste too dry.
The paste should be a bit thick and covering every inch of the meat. It shouldn't be too thick, because you don't want it to crack while drying. Let me find a picture of the finished product.
http://sgial.pblogs.gr/2008/09/spitikos-pastoyrmas.html
I know it's not a proper recipe, but maybe you have heard of a cured meat like this before?
You usually serve it very thinly sliced, with the paste which you eat. It should be soft and tender, not hard and very fragrant.
Thx for your answer, will try your recipe soon,
Kostas
Wow, that sounds amazing!!
ReplyDeleteI have heard of basturma, and it sounds quite similar to an italian bresaola:
http://curedmeats.blogspot.com/2008/01/bresaola-tasting.html
but it sounds like this beef is not put in casing, it is instead covered in the spice mixture to protect it? I will DEFINITELY make this! Thanks so much for sharing. This is part of the reason i do this blog, to share and get new recipes.
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ReplyDeleteI have heard of basturma, and it sounds quite similar to an italian bresaola
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Yeah, similar but quite different in taste.
The spice mixture is overwhelming. Ok, not tooo much, nicely overwhelming I mean! The tenderness
of the meat is amazing.
Sorry but I don't have a proper recipe, the ones that I find in Greek are a bit amateur, adding flour and some even vinegar at the spice mixture which sounds awful to me.
but it sounds like this beef is not put in casing, it is instead covered in the spice mixture to protect it? I will DEFINITELY make this! Thanks so much for sharing. This is part of the reason i do this blog, to share and get new recipes. I think you can make one up ;)
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but it sounds like this beef is not put in casing, it is instead covered in the spice mixture to protect it? I will DEFINITELY make this!
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Yeah that's why but it gives an amazing taste too the meat also. Careful not to cut a big piece when you first try it. The spice mixture(called "tsimeni" here) is not that "easy" :)
You should definitely try it, here in Greece they sell it like an amazing gourmet snack.
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thumbs up mate,
you have an amazing blog.
thx for sharing ;)
I know this post is old but I'm new to the site and had just come across it. I'll look for more on basturma on here that maybe I've overlooked but I've cured several batches in a restaurant setting and would love to talk about whatever recipes you've found. Any commercial basturma here is WAY to harsh but it can be a great product.
ReplyDeleteI have not made Basturma... Yet.
ReplyDeleteJason, I have been visiting your site for some time now and finally jumped into my first cure with pancetta. It turned out absolutely fantastic. I used every ingredient to the exact percentage. The only difference was I used Pink salt #1 instead of #2 - I thought I read that #1 is used when you plan to cook the product. Do you think that was acceptable? After the initial cure of 2 weeks, I rinsed it, dried it and then dusted it with ground pepper, garlic powder and ground bay leaf. I hung that for another 2 weeks - it turned out perfect and I mean perfect. Flavor is awesome - makes store bought taste silly! I now have a coppa hanging per your recipe. It has another 45 days depending on conditions. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Thanks for all your help! Tony
ReplyDeletetony, because it's a solid piece of meat, #1 should be ok.
ReplyDeletei'm glad you enjoy it!
Im new to curing meat but I just want to know if it is OK to let the belly sit in the frige after I cure it? Also Ive seen recipes for pancetta that say to hang the meat is that also OK in a frige? One more thing what can I use (either make or buy) to use as a place to cure?
ReplyDeleteThanks Alot really enjoy this blog
Brent
Brent: yes, you can dry the pancetta in the fridge after you've salt cured it. Leave it uncovered for about 2-3 weeks. Then use it.
ReplyDeletelook in my equipment section on how to build a curing chamber.
http://curedmeats.blogspot.com/2007/07/key-equipment-piece-3-curing-chamber.html
Well, my first pancetta was an utter failure. I skinned the pork belly (probably not a very pretty job of it, but it was my first), followed Ruhlmann and Polcyn's recipe for cure and spices, cured in the fridge for seven days, turning every other day, then trussed it and hung it in a cool guest bathroom to dry. Three days later it smelled rotten.
ReplyDeleteAll I can figure is I must not have gotten good enough coverage of the cure mix, or didn't allow it to cure long enough. I probably won't try again until I can afford to build myself a curing box where I can maintain ideal temp and humidity.
Oh well, that's why it's called an the "art" of curing meats, right?
Any tips would be appreciated.
JP, hard to say what went wrong. It sounds almost like you forgot the salt!
ReplyDeleteWhat was the humidity in the guest bathroom? And the temp? They both might have been too high.
JP, hard to say what went wrong. It sounds almost like you forgot the salt!
ReplyDeleteWhat was the humidity in the guest bathroom? And the temp? They both might have been too high.
Funny, I thought the same thing, maybe in measuring all of the other things, somehow I forgot to add the salt. I did try to go right down the list, but in retrospect, who knows.
ReplyDeleteI really am not able to say what the temp and humidity was. It's been a pretty humid summer here in middle TN and I tried to keep the bathroom in the 60° to 70° range, and ran a humidifier in the room for a few hours each day. I really need to wait on these dry curing projects until I have the proper equipment. Ruhlman in his book makes it sound like, heck, you can hang a pancetta just about anywhere out of the sunlight because it's easy to cure, so I got carried away and went for it.
I appreciate your suggestions. I guess mostly I was venting, haha.
I have made some apple wood smoked bacon with another belly, and that turned out awesome, since there was no dry curing involved and I have a pretty good smoker.
Looking forward to future blog postings from you.
JP, 60 is really the high limit for temperature...70 is definitely too warm.
ReplyDeletePut the pancetta in the regular fridge to dry. It'll be done in 3 weeks and perfect.
Ruhlman is very nonchalant with food safety. I don't like that.
Jason - Funny, I've generally thought that Ruhlman uses too much salt and errs on the "over safe" side. Anyway, I just put a belly into the fridge this afternoon and will roll it up next week. My basement is about 65 degrees and maybe 60% humidity so I've not had any problems with the pancetta going bad or drying out.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, in April I made two pancetta for a friend who owns a restaurant and when I went to visit him last month, the meat was still hanging in his basement, nearly completely covered with all manner of green mold. Rather than toss it out, I made a strong brine, carefully washed everything off, and the meat was delicious. In fact, he added pasta carbonara to the menu using my cured pancetta and it was a hit. Gotta love salt and high heat.
Jason,
ReplyDeleteI'm diving into the pancetta without the benefit of a curing chamber (yet), so have a question re: non-curing chamber curing. I see you cured in the fridge (low humidity) on at least one foray, with success. I have a basement which remains at about 55 - 60 degrees and 45 RH. Since the temp is close to what you recommend with a higher humidity than the fridge, but lower than a curing chamber, what do you think? Better just to cure in the fridge?
Thanks for any input you can give!.
Cheers,
Dave F
Dave, i think it should work fine.
ReplyDeleteHi there,
ReplyDeleteThis is will be my first time curing meat. I don't have a chamber, so I'll be curing it in the fridge. After the 30 days are up, how do I store the pancetta? I see a lot of people talking about mold and such forming; is this to be expected? Thanks!
Store it by wrapping in plastic and putting in zip bag.
ReplyDeleteMold probably wont form at refrigerator temperatures, but if it does, just wipe it with some vinegar/water solution.
Thanks! Last thing, do I rinse the meat of the cure mixture before I use it?
ReplyDeleteRinse it after the salting/curing phase. Pat it dry and put it in the fridge.
ReplyDeleteNo need to rinse after it's dried.
just tasted my 1st attempt at pancetta. didn't roll it up, just let it air dry in the fridge for 2 more weeks-although it doesn't taste like my Kroger's pancetta, it is very good, was lots of fun to make, and I will be making more.
ReplyDeleteJason-
ReplyDeleteJust getting into curing meats. Done a few rounds of bacon which turned out great. Making my first go at Pancetta. I'm getting to the end of the salt curing phase and getting ready to roll and hang. My pork belly has the skin on. I may sound like a rookie, but do I leave the skin on when I roll it up and tie it and hang it? If so, when its ready is the skin edible?
Thanks. Chris
Chris, rolling is a pain to do properly to make sure there are no air pockets.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, if you do roll, you have to remove the skin from the area of the belly which would end up on the inside of the roll.
It is edible, but it'll be very very tough.
I have a lamb hanging in a walkin cooler. I will be butchering on Thursday. I wonder if doing lamb belly will be any different than your method for doing pork belly? Can pancetta become lambcetta?
ReplyDeleteI would approach it the same exact way..i'm sure it'll be great.
ReplyDeleteYesterday was "Pig Day" here in Rochester NY. After returning from my butcher with a trunk load of hog parts, I proceeded to make pancetta, bacon, Spanish Chorizo, Sant'Olcese, Brianza, and I still have eight nice jowls ready to be cured into Guanciale. A Merry Porky Christmas it will be.
ReplyDeleteSounds like you'll be busy Vlobster!
ReplyDeleteI have a question about Pancetta.. could I make this using beef side?
ReplyDeleteJayne, it's worth a try. Curing beef fat is a little trickier and can go rancid more easily, but it might be worth trying.
ReplyDeleteMy pancetta has been hanging for about 1 week in +/- 63 degrees and 52% humidity.
ReplyDeleteToday I noticed a liquid "oozing" from the bottom. I'm worried there may be an air pocket in there somewhere.
Has anyone else experience this?
Probably nothing to be concerned about. I've got one in the basement for three weeks at 65F/65% humidity and it dropped some liquid in the first week. If there is an air pocket (I've had them before) dry it out to a point where you're comfortable to consume the meat, and just cut around whatever mold is inside. I have a story about two pancetta hanging in a fried's restaurant basement for five months covered in green fuzz. We just cleaned it thoroughly in brine and put it on the menu in Pasta Carbonara.
ReplyDeleteI had some liquid drop on the first day and I'm not concerned about that. There was more liquid around day 7 that seems to be coming from inside the pancetta that worries me.
ReplyDeleteJason, i tried making pancetta. Left it a week in the salt (but without pink salt) mixture. And then rinsed the cure off with water, patted dry and left it 5 days uncovered on a plate in the fridge. It smelled 'sourish'.Why is that? After i cooked it, it tasted ok, but does not taste like pancetta. Do i need to leave it in the fridge longer?
ReplyDelete5 days isn't veyr long for drying in the fridge.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about the sour smell though.
Hi Jason,
ReplyDeleteHope this blog is still alive.
I am trying your pancetta recipe and at the beginning you write "In about 7-10 days the meat will be rinsed, and hung in the curing chamber...", but in article about pancetta it looks like you didn't rinse it before hanging.
Does it matter and what difference does it make?
It really doesn't matter. I've rinsed and I've not rinsed and I don't think it makes any difference.
ReplyDeleteHelp. My cured chorizo has lost almost 50% of it' weight in just 2 weeks. I'm using a small curing chamber at 14ºC and 60% RH. Maybe the small USB fan inside the chamber is too strong and the air flow is drying out the meat? I'm using Ruhlman's chorizo recipe. Because it's so dry already, would it be safe to eat in spite of the short curing time? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteyes, eat it. The continuous fan is probably part of the problem, and your humidity is a bit low. Try to get it to about 70%.
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