tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post6622173725823273512..comments2023-06-06T11:57:50.826-04:00Comments on Cured Meats: GuancialeJasonmolinarihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-48067507102275357752014-09-26T12:56:27.961-04:002014-09-26T12:56:27.961-04:00Were you equilibrium curing? If so, after a week i...Were you equilibrium curing? If so, after a week it was probably pretty close to equilibrium if the piece wasn't very big, so you could proceed to drying.<br /><br />AT 3.5% salt it will be salty, but this isn't something you eat like a steak, it's like bacon, it's used for seasoning dishes.<br /><br />regular salt is fine, as long as there are no additites (iodine and anti-caking agent)<br />Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-73098641231928947872014-09-25T22:52:14.422-04:002014-09-25T22:52:14.422-04:00Hi jason... I'm very new with curing meats. We...Hi jason... I'm very new with curing meats. We sort of run a meat shop and seeing that there's a lot of unsold pork cheek daily I decided to try making guanciale (never tried and never tasted any)... I followed your steps but after a week the plastic bag that I used for my curing got ripped since I missed removing a tooth as I flipped it in the fridge. Right now it's still a bit squishy as I touched it and since it's a bit hard to estimate how much salt I should add again I decided to slice it up (either that or throw it away) and try cooking just a little... it was way too salty... is it really that salty? I used regular salt since there is no kosher salt available in my country... help! :D<br /><br />note on the salt: I did my reading and it seems the only difference between kosher and regular salt is the anti clumping agents and other additives... and of course in grain size.. so I figured coarse regular salt would do... am I right? or wrong?darthdarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722075436590812095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-9756526799489983502012-08-09T10:03:41.727-04:002012-08-09T10:03:41.727-04:00Sorry Simon, i answered the question maybe in comm...Sorry Simon, i answered the question maybe in comments, i should make a full post on it.<br /><br />Basically, just put it on a wire rack in teh fridge for about 3-4 weeks. If it dries out too much just wrap it in a damp paper towel and put it in a zip bag for a couple days.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-37445715340510546912012-08-09T09:57:12.567-04:002012-08-09T09:57:12.567-04:00unless i'm mistaken, i don't think you pos...unless i'm mistaken, i don't think you posted how you would dry that in a regular fridge like you said you would. i'd be very interested in knowing how you'd do that as i'm still months away from having convinced my wife to let me use some of the storage space for my future curing chamber.<br /><br />thanks,<br /><br />SimonSmokesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-74222039808416816892011-07-25T10:45:48.049-04:002011-07-25T10:45:48.049-04:00ultimately smoke and herbs and other flavors are p...ultimately smoke and herbs and other flavors are personal choice...experiment and find out what you like best. I like mine pretty simple.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-88972125476039940842011-07-25T10:40:34.777-04:002011-07-25T10:40:34.777-04:00thanks thanks for the tips -
looking forward to t...thanks thanks for the tips - <br />looking forward to the smoked version <br /><br />i agree about your post about leaving the herbs on or i may even cure it a little longer and add extra thyme.<br />i am enjoying it, but feel it could do with more herbiness....<br /><br />i have read some where that some italian guanciale - after rinsing after the curing, that they rub in dried pereronicino and pepper, then hang.<br /><br />also this post (bad google translate)<br />they cure for 15-20 days, and smoke for 18-24 hours, they a high-ish temp dry and a low one for 40 to 60 days... phew<br />http://tinyurl.com/3shrjrx<br /><br /><br />and poli uses garlic too, which i images is great with the rosemary in the fat<br />http://lpoli.50webs.com/index_files/Guanciale.pdfadamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12451968761198425630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-2856245101035109312011-07-25T10:38:43.653-04:002011-07-25T10:38:43.653-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12451968761198425630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-57616668780373600452011-07-25T09:03:17.952-04:002011-07-25T09:03:17.952-04:00Adam: i leave the skin on until i cook with it.
As...Adam: i leave the skin on until i cook with it.<br />As far as smoking, yes, cold smoke after cure, before drying. Hard to say how much smoke since it depends on your setup, but probably 8-12 hours should be plenty.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-38990209469008447522011-07-25T08:35:36.287-04:002011-07-25T08:35:36.287-04:00one other thing - do you remove the skin from the ...one other thing - do you remove the skin from the jowl before curing?<br /><br />or leave the skin on?<br /><br />adamadamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12451968761198425630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-2337514704475521482011-07-25T08:25:47.925-04:002011-07-25T08:25:47.925-04:00hi jason and other knowledgeable folk.
your blog ...hi jason and other knowledgeable folk.<br /><br />your blog is brilliant.<br />i recently cured my first guanciale.<br />having never bought any before, i dunno how it should taste, but its pretty delicious.<br /><br />im about to embarck on my attempt at smoked guanciale or guanciale affumicato<br /><br />can find any recipes - so does anyone have any advice.<br />i was thinking of cold smoking after the curing process and pre hanging to dry.<br /><br />anyone have any experience or tips on this?<br /><br />regards<br />adamadamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12451968761198425630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-20377042931328210522010-12-11T09:37:07.265-05:002010-12-11T09:37:07.265-05:00I'm tackling 20 pork jowls this morning, and i...I'm tackling 20 pork jowls this morning, and intend on using your recipe for some of them. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.Kevin Kossowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162563717624538222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-55856012243185366992010-12-10T20:42:21.623-05:002010-12-10T20:42:21.623-05:00you're welcome.you're welcome.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-9101836516295849632010-12-10T18:39:00.995-05:002010-12-10T18:39:00.995-05:00Thank you, Jason!
One of these days I'll have...Thank you, Jason!<br /><br />One of these days I'll have a *real* curing chamber. I've already printed out your excellent guide on making one, but I reckon it'll be a while before I get it finished.<br /><br />Thanks again for being so helpful :-)<br /><br />../mosaicaMosaicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15663800298462828158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-34732256119813061682010-12-08T16:42:28.318-05:002010-12-08T16:42:28.318-05:00Mosaica, my fridge cures are about 2 weeks for all...Mosaica, my fridge cures are about 2 weeks for all but the thickest of pieces of meat. More time won't hurt though.<br />As far as the drying phase..more time will concentrate the flavors more. You can do it for less time, but it won't be as dry and as tasty...it really depends on what you prefer and also on your environment.<br />Feel is really the best way to measure, but a month or 2 in the curing chamber will get you a tasty product.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-66385444409432627222010-12-08T16:39:18.130-05:002010-12-08T16:39:18.130-05:00Hello Jason,
My guanciale has been hanging now fo...Hello Jason,<br /><br />My guanciale has been hanging now for a week, and I have a few questions.<br /><br />First, I've read your timings and also those of Polcyn & Ruhlman in Charcuterie. Yours seems to be around 3+ weeks in cure in the fridge, and then hanging from 1-6 months in your curing chamber. P & R suggest a small week curing in cure in the fridge and then 1-3 weeks of hanging. Can you talk about the difference?<br /><br />My curing environment (chamber is too fancy a word for my setup) has a temperature that varies from 40-55, and a humidity which varies from 28 to 48 and averages around 45 when I keep up on draping a wet towel alongside my environment. Should I be going by feel more than anything in this case?<br /><br />I guess that's it for today. I hope you & your family are enjoying December so far :-)<br /><br />../mosaicaMosaicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15663800298462828158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-53888598175417978842008-04-22T17:14:00.000-04:002008-04-22T17:14:00.000-04:00Awesome, thanks Emile. Good to know you have them!...Awesome, thanks Emile. Good to know you have them!<BR/>I DO love cawcaw creek pork..it's been the best i've ever eaten.<BR/><BR/>jasonJasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-59198237234184040532008-04-22T16:58:00.000-04:002008-04-22T16:58:00.000-04:00Jason-approved jowls at www.cawcawcreek.com !Emile...Jason-approved jowls at www.cawcawcreek.com !<BR/><BR/>EmileAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-40752708633309555812008-04-01T16:39:00.000-04:002008-04-01T16:39:00.000-04:00JimK, i don't know if htey sell them anymore. I go...JimK, i don't know if htey sell them anymore. I got them about 2 years ago, and they've been vac packed in my freezer since. There was no minimum order back then.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01148079510998363603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-14222630113467372802008-04-01T16:32:00.000-04:002008-04-01T16:32:00.000-04:00How do you get the jowls from Niman ranch? I've ne...How do you get the jowls from Niman ranch? I've never seen them offered on the web site. Special order? Any recollection of what the minimum quantity was?<BR/>jimkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-34407794133514041082008-03-26T16:15:00.000-04:002008-03-26T16:15:00.000-04:00My two questions got answered.. Keep teaching me J...My two questions got answered.. Keep teaching me Jason...GadgetGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03176536523146556672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-26924059464203907542008-03-25T10:48:00.000-04:002008-03-25T10:48:00.000-04:00I'll probably cure it for about 7-10 days, then dr...I'll probably cure it for about 7-10 days, then dry it for at least 30.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-39630593366300102972008-03-25T10:46:00.000-04:002008-03-25T10:46:00.000-04:00How long are you going to cure it?How long are you going to cure it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-31088619728723475272008-03-25T08:58:00.000-04:002008-03-25T08:58:00.000-04:00Thanks Rowdy...this is one of the easiest cured me...Thanks Rowdy...this is one of the easiest cured meats...this and pancetta can be dried in a regular refrigerator. <BR/>I'll explain in a few days once i hang mine.Jasonmolinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15053725760642707017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9190984942207410953.post-73131167446612972132008-03-25T08:41:00.000-04:002008-03-25T08:41:00.000-04:00Nice work JMO.Guanciale for sure. You make it sou...Nice work JMO.<BR/><BR/>Guanciale for sure. <BR/><BR/>You make it sound so easy, and I know it is not.<BR/><BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com